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    SubjectRe: [PATCH] 2.5 PROPOSAL: Replacement for current /proc of shit.
    Keith Owens wrote:
    > On Fri, 02 Nov 2001 13:39:29 +0100,
    > Martin Dalecki <> wrote:
    > >Bull shit. Standard policy is currently to keep crude old
    > >interfaces until no end of time. Here are some examples:
    > >...
    > >/proc/ksyms - this is duplicating a system call (and making stuff easier
    > >for intrusors)
    > Anybody can issue syscall query_module. Removing /proc/ksyms just
    > forces users to run an executable or Perl syscall(). You have not
    > improved security and you have made it harder to report and diagnose
    > problems.

    Talking about reality:

    Having perl on the box, or having to upload some special purpose
    application on the box are both measures not that easy if you are
    going to do a real breakin. (Read: write some buffer overflow stub)
    But just echo sum stuff or therelike is
    *much* easier. And then there is the capability stuff you could use
    to prevent everybody from accessing the syscall interface.

    You don't have much expierence with real break-ins. Don't you?
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