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    SubjectRe: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M2FS for Linux
    On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Richard Gooch wrote:
    > Ingo Molnar writes:
    >
    > > The reference kernel should be IMO 'untainted' though. Believe me,
    > > during the 2.3.2x pagecache rewrite my kernel was hacked with ad-hoc
    > > debugging code beyond recognition - eg. automatic checksumming of
    > > every physical page in the system to detect stray DMA related memory
    > > corruption. No rocket science, but ugly enough to 'taint' the
    > > kernel proper. Would any of the debugging facilities advocated in
    > > this thread have helped in the bugs we were chasing at that time?
    > > Nope. Do i want such debugging code to ever show up in the mainsteam
    > > kernel? Hell no.
    >
    > Would you classify IKD as a pile of warts you wouldn't want to see in
    > the kernel?

    I run IKD 99.99% of the time (maintenance helper bee). Still, I wouldn't
    want to see it in the kernel.. except maybe kdb. IKD is very intrusive
    from the code readability standpoint. Memleak in particular has a zillion
    ugly ifdefs I don't know how to get rid of.

    > Surely there must be some useful features that can be included in the
    > kernel without uglyfing it or slowing it down (configed out)? Leaving
    > aside the social engineering attempts, of course :-)

    They can all be configured out, and they are all useful. KDB is the only
    one which (imho) could be integrated without uglifying the code.

    -Mike

    (What means 'social engineering attempts'?)

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