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SubjectRe: Availability of kdb


Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> In article <39B6A683.3F75DC9D@timpanogas.com>,
> Jeff V. Merkey <jmerkey@timpanogas.com> wrote:
> >Linus Torvalds wrote:
> >
> >> Apparently, if you follow the arguments, not having a kernel debugger
> >> leads to various maladies:
> >> - you crash when something goes wrong, and you fsck and it takes forever
> >> and you get frustrated.
> >> - people have given up on Linux kernel programming because it's too hard
> >> and too time-consuming
> >> - it takes longer to create new features.
> >>
> >> And nobody has explained to me why these are _bad_ things.
> >
> >They are bad because they cost people money that could be spent more
> >productively in other areas due to the lengthening of the development
> >process and the support costs.
>
> Ehh..
>
> Explain to me again why I should care?
>
> Read my posting again. Read the "I'm a bastard" part twice. Realize
> that in the end, I don't care who speds money, time, and effort. In the
> end, I think that we're better off _without_ code that hasn't been
> thought through.
>
> More code, more people, more money. Why should I think they are good
> things?
>
> The people, the projects, the companies that come though that test of
> fire victorious are not only stronger for it, but more importantly, they
> are the kind of people, projects adn companies who DID get through.
> Dedicated. Smart. And careful.
>
> Think of rabbits. And think of how the wolf helps them in the end. Not
> by being nice, no. But the rabbits breed, and they are better for having
> to worry a bit.

You know those huge, sharp teeth on the wolf? Want to make them longer
and sharper? Put in a kernel debugger, Linus, and the wolf will be even
more ferocious. I appreciate the honest, open response, BTW.

Jeff

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