Messages in this thread |  | | Date | Tue, 5 Sep 2000 23:55:07 -0600 | From | Richard Gooch <> | Subject | Re: [ANNOUNCE] Withdrawl of Open Source NDS Project/NTFS/M2FS for Linux |
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Mike Galbraith writes: > On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Richard Gooch wrote: > > Ingo Molnar writes: > > > > > The reference kernel should be IMO 'untainted' though. Believe me, > > > during the 2.3.2x pagecache rewrite my kernel was hacked with ad-hoc > > > debugging code beyond recognition - eg. automatic checksumming of > > > every physical page in the system to detect stray DMA related memory > > > corruption. No rocket science, but ugly enough to 'taint' the > > > kernel proper. Would any of the debugging facilities advocated in > > > this thread have helped in the bugs we were chasing at that time? > > > Nope. Do i want such debugging code to ever show up in the mainsteam > > > kernel? Hell no. > > > > Would you classify IKD as a pile of warts you wouldn't want to see in > > the kernel? > > I run IKD 99.99% of the time (maintenance helper bee). Still, I wouldn't > want to see it in the kernel.. except maybe kdb. IKD is very intrusive > from the code readability standpoint. Memleak in particular has a zillion > ugly ifdefs I don't know how to get rid of. > > > Surely there must be some useful features that can be included in the > > kernel without uglyfing it or slowing it down (configed out)? Leaving > > aside the social engineering attempts, of course :-) > > They can all be configured out, and they are all useful. KDB is the > only one which (imho) could be integrated without uglifying the > code.
Fine. Then let's add that, at least. It's probably the #1 thing anyway.
> (What means 'social engineering attempts'?)
Attempting to change people's habits by making it hard to debug.
Regards,
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