Messages in this thread |  | | Date | Wed, 6 Sep 2000 19:31:53 +0100 (BST) | From | Tigran Aivazian <> | Subject | Re: Availability of kdb |
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Daniel,
very nice monologue, thanks. It would be great to know Linus' opinion. I mean, I knew Linus' opinion of some years' ago but perhaps it changed? He is a living being and not some set of rules written in stone so perhaps current stability/highquality of kdb suggests to Linus that it may be (just maybe) acceptable into official tree?
(hence I cc'd Linus, please forgive me (Linus) if you don't want to hear about kdb again)
Regards, Tigran
On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Daniel Phillips wrote:
> Mike Galbraith wrote: > > > > On Wed, 6 Sep 2000, Damien Miller wrote: > > > > > Tools like a KDB would make the kernel a lot more accessible to the > > > time-poor. > > > > Kdb is available to all. I think it should be _integrated_ mostly > > because of the (potential) improvement in bug report quality. > > Well, yes and no. As maintained by SGI, kdb is up to date: > ftp://oss.sgi.com/www/projects/kdb/download/ix86/kdb-v1.3-2.4.0-test8-pre4.gz > > As maintained in the official ikd package, kdb is unusuably out of > date, at least for me: > ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/andrea/ikd/v2.4/2.4.0-test2-ikd2.bz2 > > Q: If kdb were a kernel option, would the official version be out of > date, the way it is now? > A: no. > > Q: If kdb were a kernel option, would Linus be called on to fix it > when it breaks? > A: no, obviously not, Linus is too busy > > Q: Who would fix it then? > A: Whoever breaks it. > > Q: What if Linus breaks it? > A: That's a special case. I personally will drop whatever I'm doing > and try to fix it. I will cordially invite J. Dow, J. Merkey, R. > Gootch, and various other degenerate powertool lovers to help. > > Q: Would kdb in the kernel result in more bugs getting fixed faster? > A: Yes, no doubt > > Q: Do we need more bugs fixed faster? > A: Yes, we need that desperately. > > Q: Would kdb in the kernel give us more eyes on the bugs, making them > even shallower than they already are? > A: Why, yes it would. > > Q: Will kdb make your kernel bigger or slow it down? > A: Not if you don't use it. > > Q: Is kdb a big patch? > A: It's only 93K, zipped. > > Q: Then why isn't kdb in the kernel? > A: Uh... > > -- > Daniel > > "With enough Q's and A's, all arguments are shallow" > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ >
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