[lkml]   [2000]   [Sep]   [29]   [last100]   RSS Feed
Views: [wrap][no wrap]   [headers]  [forward] 
Messages in this thread
SubjectRe: Posting to this list without 500 bounces?
Oops..  I just realized my response to you did not go to the list
Jeff, and I feel that a public response was deserved, so I've
forwarded my message below.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:17:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mike A. Harris <>
To: Jeff V. Merkey <>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Subject: Re: Posting to this list without 500 bounces?

On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Jeff V. Merkey wrote:

>You can have a mail account on one of my servers for FREE and FOREVER.
>I would be happy to host an email account for you if you like. What do
>you want your account to be? I will create an email account, and if you
>want this, then tell me and I'll have our IS guy forward you a password.


This is a surprise response indeed. {O.O}

Although I don't always agree with you and your comments - mostly
because I am a die-hard Linux advocate (as you've no doubt seen
many times) and you sometimes seem to push different people's
buttons either out of frustration, or perhaps sometimes just for
a laugh (which I am guilty of sometimes myself), you do try to
make amends afterwards usually. (Holy run-on sentence batman..)
I've watched this in the past and didn't always feel you were
truely genuine, however maybe I was wrong.

I get pretty upset over certain types of issues WRT Linux, and my
comments to you in the past have been very harsh as a result.
The last "blast" I had with you, I more or less expected an equal
blast back, however I didn't quite expect the non-irate response
that I actually did get back, and so I thought perhaps you
weren't so hard headed in the first place, and that maybe I
should have relaxed a bit before responding.

I thought perhaps I'd been a too hard on you, but I wasn't sure
as you are a really difficult guy to peg and understand where
you're truely coming from. It's hard to tell when you're serious
about things, and when you're joking around, or perhaps just
trolling a bit or releasing steam. I suppose I'm that way too
myself sometimes though.

I thought of doing the right thing and dropping you a line of
apology as I believe 2 wrongs don't make a right. I was still
pissed off a bit though, and wasn't sure about your motives WRT
Linux and the fluctuations of the discussions that were going on
at the time, so I thought I'd hold back and see what direction
things went next.

With your discussion of an NTFS driver, etc.. that followed, the
ball bounced back to "Jeff does seem serious about Linux after
all", and so I was again not sure about you - which has always
been a part of the frustration as well. ;o) One minute Linux
sucks, and NT rocks, and the next NT sucks and Linux rocks..

You're a very dynamic minded guy! ;o)

Anyway, I think I'm beginning to understand you a bit more now,
and that will likely help me take a pill next time I disagree
with you, instead of lashing out. I don't like getting into
nasty flames with *anyone*, but of course sometimes that is where
human nature ends up taking things.

I am not one to hold a grudge however, even if I disagree with
someone strongly. I don't know if you were around for the GPL /
APC UPS flamewar with Andre Hedrick a few years back or not, but
me and Andre had some pretty harsh words, and in less than a week
we had cleaned that all up, and have been on the "same side" ever
since. He's a pretty cool guy, and so I'm glad that we amended
that situation when we did.

It looks like we too are now doing the same, and this is a good
step. It shows we can both start out by being childish jerks
sometimes, and then smell the coffee, realize what really
matters, set ourselves straight, get our minds focussed again on
Linux, clean out the grudge closet, and then be sane rational
adults once again. ;o) It's all a part of the big open source
family. ;o)

Negative energy is very counter productive, and contagious as
well, so when someone turns it around into positive energy, it is
a good thing indeed.

This is something that has been bothering me for the last week or
so, especially after having a few day cooloff period, and so I'm
glad that you have initiated this discussion by showing good over
bad. I only wish now that I had done the same a week ago.

Well, at any rate, I extend my apology to you for the personal
attacks I've blasted you with on lk in the past, and I hope that
we can put it all behind us and move on, and perhaps you will now
see me in a different light as well.

Have a good one!

Take care,

Mike A. Harris - Linux advocate - Open source advocate
Computer Consultant - Capslock Consulting
Copyright 2000 all rights reserved

#[Mike A. Harris bash tip #3 - how to disable core dumps]
# Put the following at the bottom of your ~/.bash_profile
ulimit -c 0

Red Hat Linux:
Download for free:

To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to
Please read the FAQ at

 \ /
  Last update: 2005-03-22 12:38    [W:0.048 / U:0.484 seconds]
©2003-2020 Jasper Spaans|hosted at Digital Ocean and TransIP|Read the blog|Advertise on this site