Messages in this thread | | | Date | Mon, 11 Sep 2000 13:28:11 -0600 | From | "Jeff V. Merkey" <> | Subject | Re: Availability of kdb |
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Allright, You've convinced me. I'll do it. It will require consierable support moving forward.
:-)
Jeff
Miles Lane wrote: > > On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: > > > > > > > "Theodore Y. Ts'o" wrote: > > > > > > > > If you come up with robust, easy to patch source-code-level debugger for > > > Linux, some people will use it, and some people won't. If it's better > > > than kdb, eventually it'll displace kdb as the external kernel debugger > > > of choice. As with all things, the cardinal rule in this community > > > still applies: "show me the code". > > > > > > - Ted > > > > Thanks Ted. I know, but a kernel debugger is one of those nasty pieaces > > of software that can quickly get out of sync if it's maintained > > separately from the tree -- the speed at which changes occur in Linux > > would render it a very difficult project to maintain. If there's going > > to be one (whichever one it is) it would need to be maintained and > > dragged along with the kernel proper or it would be a maintenance > > nightmare. Linus' dislike of the kernel debugger concept would also > > I agree with Ted. If your debugger is a highly effective, easy-to-use tool, > people will use it and help you with improving it. If the distributions > include it, then developers building software with "stable" kernels will > use it for checking code that interacts with their kernels in ways that > cause trouble. This would be very valuable. > > This means you get to focus on supporting released kernels. This might be > a viable way for you to build a user base. This could eventually lead to > use with the development kernel and the growth of support for keeping > the debugger in sync with the kernel's architectural changes. > > I am a Linux tester, not a kernel developer, so this is > "for what it's worth." > > Miles > > > assure that it would not be considered in design decisions moving > > forward, which is probably the biggest disuader in the whole debate. I > > don't spend money on things I believe are destined to fail. Until Linus > > changes his mind, there's no point ... > > > > Jeff > > - > > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/ > > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
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