Messages in this thread | | | From | "Johan Kullstam" <> | Subject | Re: Japanese (or other language) postings | Date | 18 Jul 2000 17:33:37 -0400 |
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"Andrew van der Stock" <ajv@greebo.net> writes:
> If you canâï½ read the following, your mailer (MUA) is > broken.
1) i can *see* it. however i cannot *read* it. perhaps i am not fluent in baud barf. 2) octal 200-240 are not a valid char codes no matter how you slice it -- even if you are microsoft. they are, in particular, illegal in html.
end of story.
> End of story.
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> With the original poster effectively saying that Linux (and I mean > the kernel, not just a distro) will not be internationalized due to > one or two spammers is wrong. International helpers (and generally > they are volunteers) have posted here before, and we should never > cut ourselves off from 70% of the world who do not speak English.
> ASCII's time is coming to a close, and confusing two issues (spam vs > ignoring all .jp/double byte mails) is simply wrong (and skirting > damn close to racism).
this is skirting damned close to a gratuitous godwin and the topic has nothing whatsoever to do with racism.
> I'm not going into which MUA is best as I've > decided what works for me
you might try one which terminates lines after 70 or characters.
> and you'll be a partisan of another > choice, and there should always be that choice. The real issue is > that many MUA's are simply and unspeakably difficult wrt HTML (which > is how double byte people must communicate with any chance of it > being read somewhere else) and how they handle languages in > general. Spam is a different issue, and one that must be addressed > but separately to languages. This is an English language forum, and > substationally that should not change, but cutting off particular > language speakers just to avoid spam or faulty or substandard > mailers smacks of avoiding the real issue.
> What happens if a Hebrew, Hindi or Russian language spammer (or more > likely, the English-language spammers that I've nearly universally > had in the 11 years I've had e-mail) mails here on a regular basis? > The problem of spam is separate to I18N, and should always be > considered so.
however, afaict *all* of the japanese encoded text has been spam. or maybe not, since i cannot read it.
> Otherwise, lkml will alienate international > developers. As Linus speaks Finnish as his first language
afaik linus speaks swedish as his first language.
> (which > requires different characters than ASCII* supports in any case) I > shouldn't think this being controversial. Hopefully, the > mono-linguists amongst us will pipe down and let Linux be truly > universal.
all we ask is rfc compliance. this may be a bit much to expect from a microsoft product.
-- J o h a n K u l l s t a m [kullstam@ne.mediaone.net] Don't Fear the Penguin!
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