Messages in this thread | | | Date | Tue, 29 Feb 2000 09:37:03 +0100 (CET) | From | Ingo Oeser <> | Subject | Re: [PATCH] Debugging messages compacting |
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, Jeff Garzik wrote: > If we are putting messages into a file, please do it in such a way that > internationalization teams can easily replace the messages with > localized ones...
This is stupid, since the maintainers can't help people, if they do not understand the reported error messages. Or would you like to switch to numbers for each message, which has to be decoded manually?
Feb 9 15:32:11 nightmaster kernel: hdb: fehlerhaftes Steuerpaket: Status=0x51 { Geraet bereit, Positionierung fertig, Fehler } Feb 9 15:32:11 nightmaster kernel: hdb: fehlerhaftes Steuerpaket: Fehler=0x30 Feb 9 15:32:11 nightmaster kernel: ATAPI-Geraet hdb: Feb 9 15:32:11 nightmaster kernel: Fehler: fehlerhaftes Speichermedium -- (Sinnschluessel=0x03) Feb 9 15:32:11 nightmaster kernel: Kann Inhaltsverzeichnis nicht lesen -- (asc=0x57, ascq=0x00) Feb 9 15:32:11 nightmaster kernel: Das fehlerhafte "Test Unit Ready" Steuerpaket war: Feb 9 15:32:11 nightmaster kernel: "00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 " Feb 9 15:32:11 nightmaster kernel: cdrom: Kann es nicht oeffnen.
This is German i18n. If someone submits sth. to linux-kernel, you generally have to _guess_ which langauage his kernel messages have, which would take even more time just to get the error messages.
So, please stop i18n of these things!
Computer Scientists all over the world can live with everything being English, because they are used to it. Most of the other contributors understand the necessity of a single language for kernel stuff, too.
The only thing, that _should_ be translated is the docs and and the configure scripts (esp. the help texts).
Translated error messages clearly slow down bug recognition. And for me (and some other people) German (or lets say "native language") error messages are really confusing, because I'm used to the English ones, and my brain expects these known pattern ;)
So I switched to LANG=C to get the real messages.
The "Tower of Babel" showed us, how evil separate languages are for getting real work done ;)
Stop i18n of kernel messages, stop confusing people!
Regards
Ingo Oeser -- Feel the power of the penguin - run linux@your.pc <esc>:x
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