Messages in this thread | | | Date | Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:42:19 -0700 (PDT) | From | Linus Torvalds <> | Subject | Re: no driver change for 2.4? |
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On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Hubert Mantel wrote: > > So the huge ISDN update in proposed-2.2.11 will be removed from the final > 2.2.11 release?
[ Irritated mode: FULL BLAST ]
Are you being stupid on purpose, or were you born that way?
Go back and read the thread. Read why I'm irritated. READ. THINK.
[ Irritated mode: NORMAL ]
I'm really disgusted with ISDN development. I'm disgusted with the fact that I don't _ever_ see any development until after code freeze announcements, which is at a point where it is basically too late.
I'm used to that happening. It happens with other drivers too. The thing that makes ISDN stand out is that with other drivers it happens ONCE.
With ISDN, it has happened EVERY SINGLE DAMN RELEASE TIME! For the last FIVE years or so. I've complained before, and every time my complaints are apparently ignored, and result in stupid comments like the above.
It is over. I refuse to see this continue. The ISDN people need to open up, and stop the ridiculous practice of having closed lists and closed releases, and not feeding them back until it's basically too late. The ISDN people need to get on with the program, because it doesn't work the way it is handled now.
We had this exact discussion during the 2.2.x release thing, and yet people seem to not have woken up. I don't know what I have to do to make people understand. I'm considering asking SuSE to stop funding any development that doesn't find its way in a timely manner into the standard kernel, for example.
I know there _are_ people at SuSE who understand that the current ISDN development model is a disaster for releases. Maybe you should talk to them.
Linus
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