Messages in this thread | | | Date | Sat, 24 Jul 1999 22:53:02 -0500 (CDT) | From | "Andre M. Hedrick" <> | Subject | Re: [OT] Re: UPS's |
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And if BEST had ever made a better qaulity product than APC, I would have done BEST a the favor. Since APC has always made the superior product and have scalable devices and native hotswap, do you go with second place (or the first loser) or a winner? Yes, it was a nightmare of the worst kind. Linux/opensource won another fight, thus I owe RMS and GNU a debt of graditude. Mike Harris wins the door prize for kicking a sleeping TIGER, `SQUARE IN THE "BALLS"!!!!' with both feet. Thus the former came to my aid/council to weave through the mine field; mean while, I lob the "FAT MAN" (1940's) based on a document web search to CMA and CYA.
For the record, I never had any internal docs/specs on their product line. They were amazed that any idoit would lob characters at the device and see what happens. They new it what theoritcally possible to create "apcupsd", but never thought is was possible. Did someone say Linux in '92 and where are we today. I did it more so to prove them wrong, and encourage them to the opensource community. They almost jumped with opensource with the USB-UPS protocol, I hinted for the API for USB to port into Linux and it almost happened............another day.
We one the point of clean room design, but the price was that I had to ship the package to Denmark to require international law to be invoked. Get the point, so go easy on APC.......I still have high level access and open discussions to continue a convincing dialog on the merits of opensourse.
On Sat, 24 Jul 1999, Paul Jakma wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Jul 1999, Mike A. Harris wrote: > > Well, I agree, however I put more stock into companies that say > "Yes, we support Linux" or "Here is the source code for a driver > for our product, you can do whatever you need to do to get it to > work in Linux", or "here is a manual, and we will not sue you", > or "NDA? No, you don't have to sign an NDA, what do you think we > are? APCC?" ;o) > > Indeed.. > > In contrast to APC and Andre's struggle with them, if you go to > Best's website you can download their UPS software. The Unix version > is available as source. > > So let's see: > > APC: made it difficult for Andre to write his programme and release > the source. (and it's not like Andre got loads of spec's and help > from them AFAIK).
Again, for the record, I never had any internal docs/specs on their products.
> Best: wrote their own upsd, and have the source openly available on > their website.
Duh, have you ever tried to read and understand "three card monty" design of "CheckUPS II". It is as bad as the canned packages that create the miniport interface for M$'s API.
> which one do you trust/respect the most?
Company or Hardware? Something born of OpenSource fighting to live? or Three Card Monty, that claims to be a token gift.
Now for the final note::
They have one or two guys....... or All of opensource and many of the finest minds in computing to day!!!
Andre Hedrick The Linux IDE guy
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