Messages in this thread | | | Date | Sun, 27 Jun 1999 10:10:33 -0400 | From | Joe <> | Subject | Re: strange problem in X |
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hmmmm
> >My guess is that something is probably wrong in X itself or in > >the kernel i/o that is afecting X but am guessing at this point? > > My guess is that if that is happening, and to everyone, that it > must be a kernel bug. Any application that can crash the kernel, > means there is a kernel bug/misfeature IMHO.
so far I have had only one freeze by X that required hitting the reset .... Ctrl-Alt-Backspace kills X and dumps me back to the console, and then I can re-start X...
so far I have only heard from a few people (2?) that have SMP 2.2.x / XFree 3.3.3.1 on there system, and are having this problem. No UP systems yet .. the UP systems I have heard from are not running X3.3.3.1 (the UP systems seem to have X3.3.2.x)...
XFree recommeds that if you are running a version that isolder than 6-12 months upgrade.. X3.3.3.1 is almost that I believe... please upgrade to 3.3.3.1 it if you have problems (freezing) then after you have upgraded if you are still having problems then let me know.. thank you...
There are various distros that these people are using also. debian 2.1 supposedly comes with 3.3.2.3 (so I have been told?)
> > 4) with 2.2.x what compilers can be safely recommended ? I > > gcc-2.7.2.3 - I believe Linus officially uses this, or 2.7.2.1 > himself. I never use egcs on kernels. The redhat kernel is egcs > compiled though.
<suggestion flame=no> maybe he (Linus) should start using egcs at least testing with it then, as it is "going" to be gcc 2.9 soon, and most distros are going that way. </suggestion>
Currently I think that most glibc2.1 distros include (?)egcs(?), and no longer include gcc. Someone that is not comiling there kernel very often should not have a special C compiler on a system just for the kernel. Besides how often does one compile a kernel that is not developing? (last compile I did was when 2.2.10 came out)
If egcs is causing kernel 2.2 compile problems than this is a another issue as more and more distros come with it "exclusively" . More and more will experience problems.
I have noticed thou that occasionally a process gets scheduled (read on SMP) and run and then shoots the CPU usage to 100% (am logging now if it occurs again I will know which CPU) for that process and stays there until it is killed. Other have reported this with bdflush, but I have had this happen with kflushd (yesterday) and bdflush (rare maybe 1 time), as well as Netscape (yes Netscape), and possiblly other programs (cannot recall).
If this happens with Xwrapper could it be what is causing X to freeze? I am also using a hardware cursor, if XFreezes and I have a hardware cursor will the hardware cursor continue to operate even though the software is not working properly?
> Possibly. If you have problems with *ANY* kernel that is > compiled with egcs, recompile the kernel with gcc 2.7.2.3 and see > if the problem goes away first.
I don't have gcc 2.7.2.anything on my system ie RH 6.0 in fact it is egcs 1.1.2 not 1.0
I just upgraded to the new X 3.3.3.1 rpms at RH's site. these are updates but I am not sure what they fix..
-- Joseph Acosta ........ SMP Linux 2.2.10 / RedHat 6.0
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