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SubjectRe: Improving the Unix API
On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, Alexander Viro wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, Doug Rabson wrote:
>
> > This looks viable as long as you don't use small integers to represent
> > FL_UFS etc. Having a single header defining constants for all filesystems
>
> Erm... sizeof(int)==4. I doubt that you will need more.
>
> > just doesn't scale at all.
> Sure. If you don't need fs-specific stuff - <sys/stat.h> and there
> you go. If you need some particular fs - <sys/stat.h> and <sys/foo_fs.h>

I'm talking about the concept of a header file containing something like:

#define FL_VFS 0
#define FL_FOOFS 1
#define FD_BARFS 2
...

not being scalable.

Do you have a complete list of filesystem types? Are you prepared to act
as an Assigned Number authority for that list. For this kind of problem,
strings are a damn sight easier to manage in the long term.

>
> > You still want a clearly defined set of FS independant flags so that the
> > application doesn't need to care what filesystem it is sitting on.
>
> And that's exactly the reason for FL_VFS vs. FL_FOOFS separation -
> some applications should be able to talk with the filesystem in the
> filesystem's terms *and* be sure that they will not mess with another fs;
> the rest shouldn't care for fs differences at all (aside of "did the
> sucker set the bits I wanted?" that you already have for SUID/SGID/sticky).
>
> I don't think that porting it to 4.4 will be difficult - all you
> need is a way to tell VOP_SETATTR what level are you talking to (most
> likely the same way as on the our side - add a field to the structure and
> let the methods scratch their heads). I'm going to do the Linux variant
> and see how it will work. If somebody wants to do it with *BSD - fine, it
> shouldn't be a problem.

I'm sure the api would be easy to port. I wouldn't accept any api for
FreeBSD which involved assigning numbers to filesystem types. It was too
painful to rid it of the last set of numbers from the old mount(2) call.

--
Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com
Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037



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