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    SubjectRe: help w/ SPARC stuff


    On Tue, 29 Sep 1998, Mike Wangsmo wrote:
    > >
    > >No, I want Linus to be pressured to put these changes in.

    Putting "pressure" on me is just the wrong thing to do. It makes my just
    hate you guys even more. Don't go that way, you'll just find me even
    harder to work with.

    > Ok, so I ask again (and why the hell are you up this early also?), what is
    > Linus' reason for not applying the patches?

    Linu's reason for not applying the patches is that I get this frigging big
    patch with no explanations of what it does.

    I applied the generic non-driver-specific parts, and people promised me it
    wouldn't hurt. It hurt, because it turns out that the patch contained
    parts that _were_ driver-specific after all. Should that make me happy?
    No, it just makes me even more stronly feel that I want the vger patch
    explained.

    David has gone through this. He _should_ know how this is handled, but
    apparently he has forgotten. He split up his vger backlog into reasonable
    patches, and added a explanation to the top of them. And he found out that
    I do apply the patches when it's done that way.

    If patches come to me without explanation, I apply them only if I can look
    at the patch and say "ok, that's right, obviously I should apply this".
    But for larger patches I _require_ that the person who sends me the patch
    do more than say "ok, this is the sync-up with vger".

    The fact that this is painful to do for patch maintainers is irrelevant.
    Because quite frankly, I'd rather spread the pain than take it all onto
    myself. And if they had done the patches on a more timely basis instead of
    buffering them all up, it would be less of a pain.

    Linus


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