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    SubjectRE: Linus Speaks About KDE-Bashing

    > -----Original Message-----
    > From:
    > []On Behalf Of Linus Torvalds
    > Sent: Sunday, July 12, 1998 8:15 AM
    > To: Alan Cox
    > Cc:;;
    > Subject: Re: Linus Speaks About KDE-Bashing
    > On Sat, 11 Jul 1998, Alan Cox wrote:
    > >
    > > > >My opinion on licenses is that "he who writes the code gets
    > to chose his
    > > > >license, and nobody else gets to complain". Anybody
    > complaining about a
    > > > >copyright license is a whiner.
    > >
    > > As Linus isnt it seems aware of this its worth reminding the
    > KDE people that
    > > they DID NOT WRITE ALL THE CODE. Every line of GPL'd code taken
    > from things
    > > like GIMP at the express displeasure of the GIMP team for
    > example. I don't
    > > think anyone could argue about a KDE "pseudo GPL license" as it stands
    > > now if it was all new code (ie the GPL but we think Qt is ok because...
    > > license). Authors can pick any license the like.
    > All the arguments I've seen against KDE have been the spacious arguments
    > that "KDE uses a non-GPL license, and as such it must be bad". I don't buy
    > into that.
    > If they in fact are violating _other_ peoples copyrights, that is a
    > completely different matter, and I never implied that I allowed that.
    > Violating other peoples copyright is a crime, and anybody who thinks I
    > thought that was ok didn't read my message.
    > IF the KDE people are indeed doing that, then it is unacceptable, no
    > question about it. And you can actually sue them.
    > However, what _I_ was complaining about is that all of the flamage I have
    > seen have not been about any crimes, but have been about people not liking
    > the QT copyright. And I have grown too tired of seeing peoplg complaining
    > about BSD people who want to use the BSD copyright, or GPL people who want
    > to use the GPL.
    > I was only trying to support _anybody_ who uses whatever copyright they
    > choose. Whether GPL, BSD, free, half-way proprietary or 100% proprietary.
    > He who writes the code gets to say the copyright, and _nobody_ has the
    > right to complain about his/her choice of copyright. That is unethical.
    > Anybody _violating_ a copyright is not just unethical, but downright
    > criminal, and I have never condoned such behaviour. I thought that went
    > without saying, and as such I said only the part that obviously is very
    > hard for some people to understand.
    > Linus
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