Messages in this thread | | | Date | Mon, 13 Apr 1998 10:52:36 +0200 (GMT+0200) | From | Peter K <> | Subject | [OFFTOPIC] Re: "I am not receiving anything from VGER lists ?" |
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On Mon, 13 Apr 1998, Matti Aarnio wrote:
> > From: Hans-Christoph Rohland <hans-christoph.rohland@sap-ag.de> > ..... > > Christoph > > > > P.S: Am I the only one getting no more mails from linux-kernel or is > > there a general problem with the list?
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> For the general info: We postmasters associated with these lists > are rather trigger-happy. If your email bounces for ANY reason > outside our sphere of direct influence, you are very likely to be > removed from the lists.
<rant> In fact, I reduced the delivery retry duration to 4 days, receive and send message timeout to 1 hour. This brought the vger exploder queue down to below 100 where it often used to exceed 400. Weekends in particular are a bitch.
Of course I would want *everyone* subscribed to receive the linux lists mail, but there's also some onus on the recipient to get his/her ISP to get its act together. We (exploders / Linux list admins) are doing "it" for the love of it (y'know, giving something back for the sake of the 'Net) and time is at times at a premium.
In SA the situation exists where the local telcom monopoly doesn't want to play ball (yet) by connecting to the common peering points the other ISPs have set up, with the result that TCP/IP traffic between the SAIX network connected ISPs and "the others" is routed via the US. That, coupled with SAIX's "service" levels, undercutting and ISP nepotism causes an incredibly crappy connectivity with time-outs galore.
<jealous> (Matti is of course connected to reputedly the best national backbone in the world </jealous> and would probably wonder how other countries can live with dissimilar set ups.)
I don't even want to mention the rest of Africa, but Malaysia deserves mention - they are still in the 'Net stone age using smoke signalling. </rant>
One day ...
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