Messages in this thread | | | Date | Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:45:38 -0600 | From | Trever Adams <> | Subject | The GGI and EvStack debate -- Linus and such persons please reard. |
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Please take all I saw with a grain of salt. I am afraid most of my theory is not in computer OSes but in small systems. I also haven't done much to contribute to the kernel but report bugs and say thank you. Currently though, I am trying to pay back the GNU/Linux group by writing some software I need and will be placing it under GPL once I can work most bugs out.
Now with the salt, pass some reality: GGI sounds like a great idea. I haven't tried it yet. I will be as soon as I finish the above project and get a spare machine I can afford to lose data on (note, I rarely run anything beta, though I do run 2.1.86 and 2.1.88 because some software wouldn't work in 2.0.33). I am not sure anyone argues that GGI is a good idea.
It seems Linus (though I respect him, think he is intelligent, I don't believe he is infallible! No one is!) doesn't like the EvStack due to the ideas of multiple keyboards. Linus and gang, are terminals (text or otherwise) valid input devices for Linux? If so why can't a machine have multiple video cards with multiple input devices arbitrarily assigned to them. This would allow fast graphics (not just a dumb X term) to be displayed for each user of the system. Yes, I agree this could be bloat city (so could GGI) but it could also be a fast, small, tight system. FDcons (I believe that was the similar thing the Mac Linux had) and EvStack are both the extremes it seems. Maybe with a little effort and trust and acceptance GGI and the combined FDcons/EvStack could be tested and given ideas on.
Ok, enough chew out of Linus and Gang, GGI org, it is your turn now. Most of the people who want to try out GGI seem to also be running 2.1.8x or 2.1.9x so provide patches for GGI against those. This should be done before 2.0.3x but 3x is nice as well. I am not sure how easily this is done. If you can provide me with such a patch (against 2.1.88 or 2.1.91 when it comes out [if it proves to be stable enough]) give me a few weeks to wrap up my current project and I will gladly run Xggi and KGI etc. on a system I can throw together. While it only has an old 486 with an S3 805 card (I think), I could do tests.
Anyway, I am sure this is off topic. I hope this has offended no one. Linux is a great Unix, but given the fact some people have fallen in love with its stability (namely me for example) and would rather play games on it instead of Win95 it would be nice that the graphics can be just as fast, or faster, and just as high quality. This requires at least GGI. EvStack sounds intriguing and if it doesn't become bloat and Linus grants it a "Let's test this out people" status it would be great to play with. Anyway, live long, write code, have fun, and offend only the incompetent, not your allies.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Trever Adams arabian@onramp.net http://rampages.onramp.net/~arabian/silent.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "No man knows how bad he is till he has tried very hard to be good." ~C.S. Lewis
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