Messages in this thread | | | From | "Khimenko Victor" <> | Date | Sat, 7 Nov 1998 23:19:00 +0300 (MSK) | Subject | Re: Comments on Microsoft Open Source document |
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7-Nov-98 09:59 you wrote: > On Fri, 6 Nov 1998, Thomas Molina wrote:
Just standard US SUPER-EGOISM. You could have russian text in HTML/WP/WORD. You CAN NOT and NEVER will be able to send russian text as ASCII text.
E M A I L I S N O T A S C I I ! ! ! !
I prefer HTML here (it's by far better defined format) or one of text/plain variants (there are quite a few: "text/plain; charset=KOI8-R", "text/plain; charset=windows-1251", "text/plain; charset=ibm866", etc, etc) since I have enough tools to read [almost] all variations of "text/plain" with ability to carry russian text. But I simple could not get email from A LOT OF my friends in ASCII...
>>The idjits just don't think. Our organization's three year computer >>upgrade was at the same time MS 98/Office 97 came out. People who got >>the new computers started sending out documents in the new format which, >>in the beginning, only a tiny percentage could read. So, not only were >>the lusers idjits, the admins were also lusers.
> Thus the importance of standards. ASCII text is ASCII text. A > message sent now will be readable 100 years from now, and a > message sent 100 years from now as ASCII text will be readable > 100 years ago (in terms of then). ASCII doesn't have version > numbers, and email is strictly defined in RFC's. Attachments are > not email, they are attachments.
> Therefore an email only containing attachments does not contain > any email at all, just file attachments. Without valid ASCII > text in the message, as far as I'm concerned it is not email. If > I have an application that can look at an attachment, I may or > may not go through the trouble of viewing it. GIF/JPG's > purposefully sent to me with specific intent for me to look at, > such as jokes from friends, etc... are welcome and I'll save and > view with zgv/xv. GIF/JPG attached to email in mailing lists is > violation of netiquette IMHO unless it fits the particular list. > Likewise are other formats such as HTML, and other attachments. > I regularly delete HTML, Wordperfect, Word, etc documents sent > out, because it is obvious to me that the people sending them are > not sending me a webpage/wordperfect doc or word doc, but are > rather sending me an EMAIL MESSAGE stupidly written in one of > those formats.
> The only HTML/WP/WORD attachments that I will in fact save, are > ones sent as attachments to an ASCII text message telling me what > the attachment is, and why it was sent. So for example, someone > sending me a Resume in WP format and telling me so in the mail it > is attached to - would be considered acceptible. Someone writing > me an email message in WP is not acceptible. Email is not > Wordperfect/WOrd/HTML, it is ASCII. Programs that send email as > non-ASCII, are non-standard, and such mail goes unread to > /dev/null, and always will do so, unless PINE gets a built in WP > or HTML viewer anytime soon.
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