Messages in this thread | | | From | (Dave Barr) | Subject | Re: URGENT: A Plea to the owners of linux.dev.kernel | Date | 2 Apr 1997 14:15:36 -0500 |
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In article <199704021759.MAA00370@jenolan.caipgeneral>, David S. Miller <davem@jenolan.rutgers.edu> wrote: >I think it is just as much of a mistake to tell a new user to go blow >even if he posts his legitimate questions here.
Nobody's suggesting this. I agree new users may have legitimate questions, but it's clear (see below) that they do not have legitimate questions _here_. All we're asking is that they be nudged elsewhere.
>As for the offtopic'ness as of late, the past few days have been >filled with "clueful postings" and in fact your posting here is the >first break in that spell. Touche'
Well, to further confuse the issue with some facts, let's in fact look at the subjects of the past 3 days, shall we?
7 ld.so 1.9.1 and glibc 2.0.1 # library, not kernel related 2 login # not kernel related 2 Weird happenstance with mdrun # belongs on linux.dev.raid 2 URGENT: A Plea to the owners of linux.dev.kernel 2 SLIP/PPP Login Shells # not kernel related 2 Redhat, Slackware 96 or Slackware 3.1? # not kernel rlated 2 Problems w/ time restriction in diald 0.16.1 (fwd) # belongs on diald list 2 Problem wiht libraries # not kernel related 2 Graphics programs in Xdos. # not kernel related 2 Database prog required... # not kernel related 2 Converting ascii to ebcdic, and vice versa # not kernel related 1 splitscreen # not kernel related 1 someone turned off the computer... # not kernel related 1 simple modem tool wanted # not kernel related 1 pcmcia ethernet/modem # not kernel related 1 malloc() && 2-D arrays # general programming problem, not kernel related 1 kernel_version needed, but cannot be found # ON TOPIC! 1 getty doesn't work! # not kernel related 1 diald new user # not kernel related 1 X and a S3 Virge PCI? #2 # not kernel related 1 TP755CD, linux, xf86quake # not kernel related 1 Syn flood protection? # belongs on linux.dev.net 1 SYSV tape ioctl error # not kernel related 1 SCSI or ftape? # not kernel related 1 SCSI Cables and aha2940 # not kernel related 1 Raid0 and RH4.1 Installation. # not kernel related 1 Multiple IP's # belongs on linux.dev.net 1 I'm interested in 32bpp # not kernel related 1 How do I partition my hard drives? # not kernel related 1 Hmmm... Actually, I think the problem is masquerading... # belons on diald 1 Heavens Gate # not kernel related 1 DHCP # not kernel related 1 Bad sectors in Linux # not kernel related 1 B-Channel usage # belongs on linux.dev.isdn
Maybe you're reading a different list than I am, but for the past few days I see one and ONLY one on-topic post. Sure, some may be "clueful", but for another list entirely.
>There really isn't anything that can be "done" about offtopic postings >(as others have pointed out) and segregating the kernel list is not >going to happen at least as long as I run them at vger.
Well, that's a rather dissappointing stance.
I whole-heartedly agree with Todd Lewis's post. I'm a lurker here too, hoping to suck off kernel insights. However kernel stuff is _only_ what this list is for. I've been a part of many lists, and unfortunately this is a natural progression as a list comes of age (or past its age). I recall a rather amusing post by I belive Brent Chapman (owner of the Firewalls Digest) describing the four stages of any mailing list.
If Mr. Miller chooses not to do something, that's fine. I hope someone takes it upon themself to volunteer and send _polite_ messages to off-topic posters suggesting more appropriate lists for their inquiries. It would be nice to have some sort of quasi-moderation on this list.
--Dave
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