Messages in this thread |  | | Date | Mon, 20 Jan 1997 07:15:39 +0100 (MET) | From | Stephan Meyer <> | Subject | Re: Jive -> Kernel (International Linux) (fwd) |
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On Sun, 19 Jan 1997, Gerd Knorr wrote: > First: we are in a *english* group.
Sorry about that.
> I really don't like the idea of i18n kernel messages. There are some > reasons for this: > > - It will be limited: We can't do it (in contrast to user level > software) per user. If the kernel speaks a german, he speaks this > to everybody. Not just to the users which have "export LANG=de" in > .profile.
Many people have Linux running on a private home computer. They don't care about other users which don't exist.
> - I think the kernel messages ar'nt that hard to understand: The boot > messages just tell the device they found and a lot of numbers about > it like io, irq etc. There is'nt much real english. And nearly all > other (error) messages you see (even if something goes wrong while > booting) are from *user level* programs like mount or fsck.
It's not about understanding. I can say that I understand English quite well. But why is there a project to translate man pages and Howtos to German?
> - If you are that deep in trouble that you have to deal with a > serious *kernel* error message: If you want to ask somewhere > (here for example) you'll probably want to post the english > messages to be sure people understand them.
Someone offered a solution to this. Only use numbers in the log files and display the appropiate translation with a special viewer program (got this right?)
> - If you want (or have to) understand a kernel message, often it is > more important to know the background than to have it in native > language. Take this following message (often seen last time) as an > example: > "pppd forgot to specify route netmask." > If you don't know what a netmask or what routing is, it does'nt help > if the message is in german.
So??? If I don't know the background, it's still nicer if it is in German.
> - Have seen to much really bad translations: If you have to > translate it back to english -- word by word -- to understand > what it says...
Well, I'm gonna make it really good :-). And everybody could submit patches.
> Gerd > Stephan
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