Messages in this thread |  | | Date | Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:59:00 -0400 (EDT) | From | "William E. Roadcap" <> | Subject | Re: real kernel bloat |
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I'm CCing this to linux-kernel because I feel it's necessary to defend myself against your public chastising. Further bickering shall go to private mail, agreed?
Excuse me Mr Gollent, but I think you read more into MY message than was intended. I was making a simple observation about the size of my ISP's kernel without drawing anymore conclusion than "It's a big kernel". It was a figure I felt might be of interest to those who were participating in this thread with respect to Digital kernel sizes. I was making no comparison to Linux kernel sizes, nor do I suffer from blind (stupid? I beg your pardon) fanaticism. I take Linux for what it is as well as what it isn't and I can see both sides of the coin very clearly.
The reasons why Digital's kernel is big is moot when relating it to Linux, I agree. But, the simple fact is that it IS big and that is ALL I was saying. In addition, neither you nor I know for certain that that kernel was built with or without the -x flag. Making such unproven assumptions, in the end, might tend to cause one to appear clueless, we wouldn't want that to happen to such a clued in person as yourself, now would we?
So, get your nose out of the air and get a grip.
On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, Roman Gollent wrote:
> William E. Roadcap wrote: > > > > Just to satisfy my curiosity about the comments here on Digital Unix's > > size, I telnet'd into my ISP running Digital Unix. > > > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root system 9388376 Apr 26 12:10 vmunix.old > > > > Now that's big! > > And not relevant. Some of us have enough of a clue to compile the > kernel with the "-x" ldflag. > > Off the top of my head, things that Digital Unix has which Linux > (and any distribution derived from it) does not: > > AdvFS -- There's no way in hell I'm fscking a 24 gig /news/spool if > the system crashes. > Run on 2000 model Alphas and higher (Which also ties in with SMP) > Full Blown ATM > Clustering > Full Compliancy branding (Which linux will get when Caldera pulls through) > C2 Security > Complete BSD and SysV functionality (I can choose what I want) > CDE and very nice suite of admin tools > Better C compiler than gcc. > > Some of these things will be solved/improved in the near future, yet > there are many things that I depend on now. I like Linux and use it > wherever possible, however, I don't believe in blind, stupid > fanaticism. That's something I usually attribute to the BSD crowd and > I hope people running Linux will prove to be a little more intelligent > and mature. Writing off an OS simply because it isn't Linux is > counterproductive (The reverse is true as well, but I doubt anyone > reading this mailing list looks at it that way). There are many > things that can be learned from Digital Unix and there are many things > that the Unix Group at Digital can learn from Linux (They probably > have already). How about we get back on topic and worry about Linux > bloat compared to Linux instead of contenting ourselves to pointing at > others to prove our superiority? > > Roman >
__ William E. Roadcap mailto:roadcapw@cfw.com TITUS Software ftp://titus.cfw.com/pub Waynesboro, Va (USA) http://www.cfw.com/~roadcapw
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