Messages in this thread | | | Subject | Re: Linus using MIME ??? (was: Linux-2.1.7) | Date | Sun, 03 Nov 1996 07:15:36 +0100 | From | Alain Knaff <> |
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[...] > My standard answer: Install modern mailer ( = MTA). > > I never get QP in my incoming mailbox, because my MTA > decodes the incoming message -- and so I can use old ELM > to do all my email processing without fussing about MIME.
And what if I use POP?
[...] > Mostly because we actively took part at creating the MIME > technology; Why would we oppose it ? The world has far > more character sets than you can imagine. One survey found > about one HUNDRED of them. (more if you count aliases)
Nobody asks you to oppose it. But could you do all of us a favor, and push it less heavy handedly? Forcing people who have expressed their opinion _against_ MIME (and worse: only them !) to use it is IMHO very rude. Is your confidence in your own work really so weak that you think you have to resort to these methods?
[...] > In "FR"-case my answer to Alain was (as I recall): > "Will you start running the re-exploder instead" ? > I never got any "YES" back.
I was too busy at the time to worry ... and if I had the time to volunteer an exploder, I'd probably also have enough time to work with the sendmail team to make their MTA efficient enough to handle vger ;-)
> .. and if VGER were running modern sendmail, you would > still be in the same pinch... or rather you would not > get any messages, because it would not be able to handle > the load...
Vger ran with "compulsary QP" off for a few days. So even with zmailer, it _is_ technically possible. But then YOU stepped in and saw this as an excellent occasion to push your QP.
[...] > At my work we have a wide repertoire of systems with varying > degree of historical systems with weirdly behaving mailers.
Why don't you simply take your own advice and install new MTA's ;-) ?
> (Telecom Finland is not pure SMTP-shop, we have a lot of > rather pervert X.400 systems, EBCDIC monsters, etc... > "Just Send 8-bit" is unacceptable. MIME is the way!)
Maybe in Finland. But why do you want to force it onto a country (France) where this problem simply does not exist, and where QP actually creates more problems than it solves?
>/Matti Aarnio -- soap-boxing on "Pro-MIME" mode again..
As long as you're only discussing it, this is ok ;-) But please don't use your "dominant position" in the field of fast & efficient MTA's to _force_ everybody else to do QP. This behaviour is more akin to Micro$oft than to a honorable Linux user ;-)
Regards,
Alain
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