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SubjectRe: [PATCH v6 11/12] zsmalloc: page migration support
Hello,

On (05/24/16 15:28), Minchan Kim wrote:
[..]
> Most important point to me is that it makes code *simple* at the cost of
> addtional wasting memory. Now, every zspage lives in *a* list so we don't
> need to check zspage groupness to use list_empty of zspage.
> I'm not sure how you feel it makes code simple a lot.
> However, while I implement page migration logic, the check with condition
> that zspage's groupness is either almost_empty and almost_full is really
> bogus and tricky to me so I should debug several time to find what's
> wrong.
>
> Compared to old, zsmalloc is complicated day by day so I want to weight
> on *simple* for easy maintainance.
>
> One more note:
> Now, ZS_EMPTY is used as pool. Look at find_get_zspage. So adding
> "empty" column in ZSMALLOC_STAT might be worth but I wanted to handle it
> as another topic.
>
> So if you don't feel strong the saving is really huge, I want to
> go with this. And if we are adding more wasted memory in future,
> let's handle it then.

oh, sure, all those micro-optimizations can be done later,
off the series.

> About CONFIG_ZSMALLOC_STAT, It might be off-topic. Frankly speaking,
> I have guided production team to enable it because when I profile the
> overhead caused by ZSMALLOC_STAT, there is no performance lost
> in real workload. However, the stat gives more detailed useful
> information.

ok, agree.
good to know that you use stats in production, by the way.

[..]
> > > + pos = (((class->objs_per_zspage * class->size) *
> > > + page_idx / class->pages_per_zspage) / class->size
> > > + ) * class->size;
> >
> >
> > something went wrong with the indentation here :)
> >
> > so... it's
> >
> > (((class->objs_per_zspage * class->size) * page_idx / class->pages_per_zspage) / class->size ) * class->size;
> >
> > the last ' / class->size ) * class->size' can be dropped, I think.
>
> You prove I didn't learn math.
> Will drop it.

haha, no, that wasn't the point :) great job with the series!

[..]
> > hm... zsmalloc is getting sooo complex now.
> >
> > `system_wq' -- can we have problems here when the system is getting
> > low on memory and workers are getting increasingly busy trying to
> > allocate the memory for some other purposes?
> >
> > _theoretically_ zsmalloc can stack a number of ready-to-release zspages,
> > which won't be accessible to zsmalloc, nor will they be released. how likely
> > is this? hm, can zsmalloc take zspages from that deferred release list when
> > it wants to allocate a new zspage?
>
> Done.

oh, good. that was a purely theoretical thing, and to continue with the
theories, I assume that zs_malloc() will improve with this change. the
sort of kind of problem with zs_malloc(), *I think*, is that we release
the class ->lock after failed find_get_zspage():

handle = cache_alloc_handle(pool, gfp);
if (!handle)
return 0;

zspage = find_get_zspage(class);
if (likely(zspage)) {
obj = obj_malloc(class, zspage, handle);
[..]
spin_unlock(&class->lock);

return handle;
}

spin_unlock(&class->lock);

zspage = alloc_zspage(pool, class, gfp);
if (!zspage) {
cache_free_handle(pool, handle);
return 0;
}

spin_lock(&class->lock);
obj = obj_malloc(class, zspage, handle);
[..]
spin_unlock(&class->lock);


_theoretically_, on a not-really-huge system, let's say 64 CPUs for
example, we can have 64 write paths trying to store objects of size
OBJ_SZ to a ZS_FULL class-OBJSZ. the write path (each of them) will
fail on find_get_zspage(), unlock the class ->lock (so another write
path will have its chance to fail on find_get_zspage()), alloc_zspage(),
create a page chain, spin on class ->lock to add the new zspage to the
class. so we can end up allocating up to 64 zspages, each of them will
carry N PAGE_SIZE pages. those zspages, at least at the beginning, will
store only one object per-zspage; which will blastoff the internal
fragmentation and can cause more compaction/migration/etc later on. well,
it's a bit pessimistic, but I think to _some extent_ this scenario is
quite possible.

I assume that this "pick an already marked for release zspage" thing is
happening as a fast path within the first class ->lock section, so the
rest of concurrent write requests that are spinning on the class ->lock
at the moment will see a zspage, instead of !find_get_zspage().

-ss

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