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SubjectRe: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] [ATTEND] How to act on LKML
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On Wed, 2013-07-24 at 09:23 -0700, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-07-23 at 21:38 -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > On Tue, 2013-07-23 at 18:26 -0700, James Bottomley wrote:
> >
> > > I think it's not in the original fallacies because they come from Greek
> > > rhetoric and the Greeks believed dialectic: the taking opposite
> > > positions and arguing them thoroughly. It's only with the advent of
> > > Western European political systems that we're conditioned to seek
> > > compromise without rigorous examination. This actually makes argument
> > > to moderation one of the most effective rhetorical tools in use today
> > > for discrediting an opponent's argument without actually addressing it.
> >
> > What? Really? You mean the truth doesn't lie in the middle between
> > evolution and creationism?
>
> Well, you jest, but actually Intelligent Design is usually presented as
> a false compromise between the "extremes" of evolution and creationism.
> If you listen to it's proponents, the rhetorical device they use to
> argue for legitimacy is precisely an argument to moderation.

Exactly, which is why I used that as an example. And also, just to kick
the hornet's nest.

-- Steve




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