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    SubjectRe: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] When to push bug fixes to mainline
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    On Thu, 2013-07-11 at 20:34 -0700, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
    > On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 10:57:46PM -0400, John W. Linville wrote:
    > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 08:50:23PM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
    > >
    > > > In any case, I've been very conservative in _not_ pushing bug fixes to
    > > > Linus after -rc3 (unless they are fixing a regression or the bug fix
    > > > is super-serious); I'd much rather have them cook in the ext4 tree
    > > > where they can get a lot more testing (a full regression test run for
    > > > ext4 takes over 24 hours), and for people trying out linux-next.
    > > >
    > > > Maybe the pendulum has swung too far in the direction of holding back
    > > > changes and trying to avoid the risk of introducing regressions;
    > > > perhaps this would be a good topic to discuss at the Kernel Summit.
    > >
    > > Yes, there does seem to be a certain ebb and flow as to how strict
    > > the rules are about what should go into stable, what fixes are "good
    > > enough" for a given -rc, how tight those rule are in -rc2 vs in -rc6,
    > > etc. If nothing else, a good repetitive flogging and a restatement of
    > > the One True Way to handle these things might be worthwhile once again...
    >
    > The rules are documented in stable_kernel_rules.txt for what I will
    > accept.
    >
    > I have been beating on maintainers for 8 years now to actually mark
    > patches for stable, and only this past year have I finally seen people
    > do it (we FINALLY got SCSI patches marked for stable in this merge
    > window!!!)

    What do you mean FINALLY? There've been SCSI patches marked for stable
    in every other merge window as well. The whole reason I ran the stable
    patch tracker before you took it over was so I could get the Cc: to
    stable stuff working.

    James

    > So now that maintainers are finally realizing that they need
    > to mark patches, I'll be pushing back harder on the patches that they do
    > submit, because the distros are rightfully pushing back on me for
    > accepting things that are outside of the stable_kernel_rules.txt
    > guidelines.
    >
    > If you look on the stable@vger list, I've already rejected 3 today and
    > asked about the huge 21 powerpc patches. Sure, it's not a lot, when
    > staring down 174 more to go, but it's a start...
    >
    > greg k-h
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