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SubjectRe: [PATCH] floppy: convert to delayed work and single-thread wq
Hello, Linus.

On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 01:42:36PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Tejun Heo <> wrote:
> >
> > Ummm... still confused.  flush_work_sync() is fine too.  If you have
> > two, two calls to flush_work_sync() are equivalent to flushing the
> > workqueue in effect.  You just need to avoid flush_workqueue() because
> > system workqueues may be hosting work items which can run arbitrarily
> > long.
> Umm. If there are abritrarily long things and these are serialized,
> then that workqueue is not good for putting floppy work on it either,
> is it? I don't think you can have it both ways.

They're not being serialized. system_nrt_wq like any other system wqs
has 256 as max_active - so upto 256 work items per cpu can be
executing (ie. assigned to an active worker) at any given time and
because it's a large shared pool, some of them are allowed to take
long time.

> Either it's "good enough" for putting floppy_work, fd_timeout and
> fd_timer on, or it's not. If it's good enough, then flush_workqueue()
> should damn well be timely enough. And if flush_workqueue() isn't
> timely enough, then it doesn't sound like system_nrt_wq is the wrong
> choice.

So, per-work item, it's timely enough. It shouldn't be different from
using a dedicated workqueue. Different work items don't interact with
each other differently whether they belong to the same workqueue or
different ones as long as the workqueue's max_active limit isn't
reached. flush_workqueue() is a different story as it forces all work
items belonging to the workqueue to be related. That's why one of the
valid reasons to create a workqueue is to have a separate flush
(workqueue) domain - e.g. when the caller doesn't know which work
items need to be flushed because they're dynamically allocated and
freed on work item execution.


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