Messages in this thread | | | From | Erik Hugne <> | Date | Thu, 1 Mar 2012 15:25:53 +0100 | Subject | Re: [PATCH 0/10] af_unix: add multicast and filtering features to AF_UNIX |
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Hi Have you considered using TIPC instead? It already provides multicast messaging with guaranteed ordering, and reliable delivery (SOCK _RDM)
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--Original message--- Sender: "netdev-owner@vger.kernel.org" <netdev-owner@vger.kernel.org> Sent time: Thu Mar 01 14:56:00 CET 2012 To: eric.dumazet@gmail.com Cc: rodrigo.moya@collabora.co.uk, David.Laight@ACULAB.COM, davem@davemloft.net, javier@collabora.co.uk, lennart@poettering.net, kay.sievers@vrfy.org, alban.crequy@collabora.co.uk, bart.cerneels@collabora.co.uk, sjoerd.simons@collabora.co.uk, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/10] af_unix: add multicast and filtering features to AF_UNIX
On 03/01/2012 01:59 PM, Eric Dumazet wrote: > Le jeudi 01 mars 2012 à 13:50 +0100, Rodrigo Moya a écrit : >> the main problem in D-Bus we are trying to solve is the context >> switches, since right now, there is a daemon, which listens on a UNIX >> socket, and all traffic in the bus goes through it, and then the daemon >> has to route the messages it gets on that socket to the corresponding >> place(s). So, every time someone sends a message to D-Bus, since all >> traffic goes through the daemon, dbus-daemon gets waked-up, which is one >> of the biggest bottlenecks we are trying to fix. >> >> That's why we are thinking about using multicast with socket filters, so >> that the daemon only gets traffic it cares about and thus is not waked >> up and context switches don't happen when not needed. >> >> Using message queues, AFAICS, we would have the same problem, as the >> daemon would create the message queue and would get all traffic, right? >> > > This is why I mentioned extensions.
> > Anyway, if you think multicast sockets is the way to go, then you could > setup a virtual network just to be able to use AF_INET multicast. > > Thats probably doable without kernel patching. >
We could use AF_INET multicast on a local machine but we need some ordering and control flow requirements that are not guaranteed on UDP multicast over IP. That's why we thought to add a new address family AF_MCAST.
To make it a general local multicast solution and not being too specific we added some flags to control its behavior like MCAST_MREQ_DROP_WHEN_FULL to decide to either block the sender or drop the packet when one receiver has its queue full.
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