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    SubjectRe: memcg: fix fatal livelock in kswapd
    Sorry, my mailer might have used intelligence to send HTML (that is
    what happens when the setup changes, I apologize). Resending in text

    On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 3:29 AM, Balbir Singh <> wrote:
    > On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 4:18 AM, Johannes Weiner <> wrote:
    >> Hi,
    >> On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 03:07:29PM -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
    >> > The fatal livelock in kswapd, reported in this thread:
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > Is mitigateable if we prevent the cgroups code being so aggressive in
    >> > its zone shrinking (by reducing it's default shrink from 0 [everything]
    >> > to DEF_PRIORITY [some things]).  This will have an obvious knock on
    >> > effect to cgroup accounting, but it's better than hanging systems.
    >> Actually, it's not that obvious.  At least not to me.  I added Balbir,
    >> who added said comment and code in the first place, to CC: Here is the
    >> comment in full quote:
    > I missed this email in my inbox, just saw it and responding
    >>        /*
    >>         * NOTE: Although we can get the priority field, using it
    >>         * here is not a good idea, since it limits the pages we can scan.
    >>         * if we don't reclaim here, the shrink_zone from balance_pgdat
    >>         * will pick up pages from other mem cgroup's as well. We hack
    >>         * the priority and make it zero.
    >>         */
    >> The idea is that if one memcg is above its softlimit, we prefer
    >> reducing pages from this memcg over reclaiming random other pages,
    >> including those of other memcgs.
    > My comment and code were based on the observations I saw during my tests.
    > With DEF_PRIORITY we see scan >> priority in get_scan_count(), since we know
    > how much exactly we are over the soft limit, it makes sense to go after the
    > pages, so that normal balancing can be restored.
    >> But the code flow looks like this:
    >>        balance_pgdat
    >>          mem_cgroup_soft_limit_reclaim
    >>            mem_cgroup_shrink_node_zone
    >>              shrink_zone(0, zone, &sc)
    >>          shrink_zone(prio, zone, &sc)
    >> so the success of the inner memcg shrink_zone does at least not
    >> explicitely result in the outer, global shrink_zone steering clear of
    >> other memcgs' pages.
    > Yes, but it allows soft reclaim to know what to target first for success
    >>  It just tries to move the pressure of balancing
    >> the zones to the memcg with the biggest soft limit excess.  That can
    >> only really work if the memcg is a large enough contributor to the
    >> zone's total number of lru pages, though, and looks very likely to hit
    >> the exceeding memcg too hard in other cases.
    >> I am very much for removing this hack.  There is still more scan
    >> pressure applied to memcgs in excess of their soft limit even if the
    >> extra scan is happening at a sane priority level.  And the fact that
    >> global reclaim operates completely unaware of memcgs is a different
    >> story.
    >> However, this code came into place with v2.6.31-8387-g4e41695.  Why is
    >> it only now showing up?
    >> You also wrote in that thread that this happens on a standard F15
    >> installation.  On the F15 I am running here, systemd does not
    >> configure memcgs, however.  Did you manually configure memcgs and set
    >> soft limits?  Because I wonder how it ended up in soft limit reclaim
    >> in the first place.
    > I am running F15 as well, but never hit the problem so far. I am surprised
    > to see the stack posted on the thread, it seemed like you
    > never explicitly enabled anything to wake up the memcg beast :)
    > Balbir
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