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    SubjectRe: [linux-pm] Resume hangs [was: mmotm 2010-12-02-16-34 uploaded]
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2011, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:

    > > Rafael, this does seem to be a general problem. Suppose a new device
    > > gets connected while the system is suspended. How is the driver's
    > > probe method supposed to cope if it gets called while userspace is
    > > still frozen but it needs to load some firmware?
    > >
    > > Is the answer that probing should always be delayed until after tasks
    > > are thawed? There must be lots of subsystems which would have trouble
    > > doing that, although we ought to be able to implement delayed probing
    > > from within the driver core easily enough.
    > I don't know how to solve that.
    > First off, the prepare routines of drivers that need to load firmware during
    > resume probably should preload the firmware for the devices present during the
    > suspend.

    That's okay for drivers that are bound to a device before the suspend
    starts. But we also need to handle new devices added while the system
    was asleep.

    > Second, I don't generally think drivers should probe for devices during resume.
    > I guess the delayed probing would be the cleanest appoach here.

    Here's the difficulty. Normally the USB subsystem does use delayed
    probing -- in fact, probing is done in a freezable thread. However
    this is a special case. Not all USB drivers support suspend/resume;
    those that don't get unbound during suspend and then rebound during
    resume. The rebinding occurs in the "complete" phase of the resume,
    before tasks are thawed.

    I suppose the rebinding could be delayed. It would be better to fix
    the USB DVB drivers, though, by adding PM support. But there's a bunch
    of them in drivers/media/dvb/dvb-usb, and AFAICS they would all need to
    be fixed. And I have no idea of what changes they would need.

    Do you have any better suggestions?

    Alan Stern

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