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    SubjectRe: [RFC PATCH V1 1/2] cpuidle: Data structure changes for global cpuidle device
    * Len Brown <> [2011-03-25 04:12:03]:

    > I agree it is silly to allocate a cpuidle_device
    > for every cpu in the system as we do today.
    > Yes, splitting the counters out of cpuidle_device
    > is a necessary part of fixing that.
    > However, cpuidle_device.cpuidle_state[] is currently not per-driver,
    > it is per-cpu, and it is writable.
    > In particular, the cpuidle_device->prepare() mechanism
    > causes updates to the cpuidle_state[].flags,
    > setting and clearing CPUIDLE_FLAG_IGNORE to
    > tell the governor not to chose a state
    > on a per-cpu basis at run-time.
    > I don't like that mechanism.
    > I'd like to see it replaced, and when replaced,
    > cpuidle_state[] can be per system-wide driver.

    Thanks for the detailed review. I agree that we should rework
    handling of the cpuidle_state[].flags. However, is the prepare()
    mechanism used at all? Can we remove the option completely?

    > I think the real problem that prepare() was trying to solve
    > is that the driver today does not have the ability to over-rule
    > the choice made by the governor. The driver may discover
    > in the course of trying to satisfy the request of the governor
    > that it needs to demote to a shallower state; or it may
    > do its best to satisfy the governor's request, and the hardware
    > may demote its request to a shallower state.
    > Unfortunately, when this happens, the driver dutifully
    > returns the time spent in the state to cpuidle_idle_call(),
    > who then updates the wrong last_residency, time, and usage counters.

    I did not get this scenario. Are you saying

    target_state->enter(dev, target_state) can enter a different state
    than the one suggested by target_state?

    I understand the hardware demotion part, but can we really detect the
    target 'demoted' state in that case? I guess not.

    > Sure is ironic for the driver to allocate the data structures and
    > then hand the timer to the uppper layer, just to have the upper layer
    > update the wrong data structures...
    > Surely the driver enter routine should update the counters
    > that the driver was obligated to allocate, and it should return
    > the state actually entered (for tracing), rather than the time spent
    > there.

    Can we do something like this:

    last_state = target_state->enter(dev, target_state)

    dev->last_state and dev->last_residency are updated inside

    The returned last_state is just for tracing, actual data is already
    updated in the cpuidle_dev structure and used for sysfs display.

    > The generic cpuidle code should simply handle where the counters live
    > in the sysfs namespace, not updating the counters.
    > This needs to be addressed before cpuidle_device.cpuidle_state[]
    > can be made one/system.


    Thanks again for the recommendations.


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