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    SubjectRe: [PATCH] - race-free suspend. Was: Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 0/8] Suspend block api (version 8)
    On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Neil Brown <> wrote:
    >> The current suspend-blocker proposal already involves userspace
    >> changes (it's different than our existing wakelock interface), and
    >> we're certainly not opposed to any/all userspace changes on principle,
    >> but on the other hand we're not interested in significant reworks of
    >> userspace unless they actually improve the situation somehow.  I think
    >> bottlenecking events through a central daemon would represent a step
    >> backwards.
    > I guess it becomes an question of economics for you then.  Does the cost of
    > whatever user-space changes are required exceed the value of using an upstream
    > kernel?  Both the cost and the value would be very hard to estimate in
    > advance.  I don't envy you the decision...

    Well, at this point we've invested more engineering hours in the
    various rewrites of this (single) patchset and discussion around it
    than we have spent on rebasing our trees on roughly every other
    mainline release since 2.6.16 or so, across five years of Android
    development. We think there's some good value to be had (all the
    usual reasons) by heading upstream, so we're still discussing these
    patches and exploring alternatives, but yes, from one way of looking
    at it, it'd certainly be cheaper to just keep maintaining our own

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