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    SubjectRe: [PATCH] ptrace: allow restriction of ptrace scope
    i think we really need to have stacked LSM's, because there is a large set
    of people who will never use SELinux. Every few years, I take another
    look at SELinux, my head explodes with the (IMHO unneeded complexity),
    and I go away again...

    Yet I would really like a number of features such as this ptrace scope idea ---
    which I think is a useful feature, and it may be that stacking is the only
    way we can resolve this debate. The SELinux people will never believe that
    their system is too complicated, and I don't like using things that are impossible
    for me to understand or configure, and that doesn't seem likely to change anytime
    in the near future.

    I mean, even IPSEC RFC's are easier for me to understand, and that's saying
    a lot...

    -- Ted

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