lkml.org 
[lkml]   [2010]   [May]   [17]   [last100]   RSS Feed
Views: [wrap][no wrap]   [headers]  [forward] 
 
Messages in this thread
/
Date
From
SubjectRE: [PATCH] x86: Export tsc related information in sysfs
On Mon, 17 May 2010, Dan Magenheimer wrote:
>
> OK, so let's invert the sense of the sysfs file and call it (for now)
> "tsc_detected_as_UNreliable". Then anytime the kernel detects
> a failed warp test (or any other suspicious condition), it changes
> the bit from 0 to 1 effectively saying "if you are using rdtsc
> against our recommendation, we told you that it might go bad and
> it has, so consider yourself warned that some of the timestamps
> you've taken since the last time you've checked this flag
> may be b*rked"
>
> IMHO, addressing the issue directly and clearly documenting it
> (instead of trying to hide the dirty laundry in the kernel)
> will result in far better education of systems programmers
> and far fewer end user problems. Which raises another good analogy:
>
> You are telling teenagers to abstain and I am proposing that we
> instead encourage them to use a condom.

Wrong. A vsyscall _is_ the protection which you want them to pull over
the rdtsc.

You are basically telling them: Go ahead, but keep in mind to look for
that well hidden tag behind the left earlobe which might change
suddenly from "no disease" to "infectous".

Thanks,

tglx


\
 
 \ /
  Last update: 2010-05-18 00:39    [from the cache]
©2003-2011 Jasper Spaans