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    SubjectRe: [PATCH -tip] introduce sys_membarrier(): process-wide memory barrier (v9)
    On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 11:43:26AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
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    > On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Ingo Molnar wrote:
    > >
    > > Perhaps NOFPU could do lazy context saving: clear the TS flag and only save
    > > the FPU state if it's actually used by the signal handler?
    >
    > If we can get that working reliably, we probably shouldn't use NOFPU at
    > all, and we should just do it unconditionally. That big (and almost always
    > pointless) FPU state save is a _big_ performance issue on signal handling,
    > and if we can do it lazily, we should.
    >
    > However, I'm not at all convinced we can do this reliably. How do we
    > detect the "signal frame is dead" case with things like siglongjmp() etc?
    >
    > And if we can't detect that "frame no longer exists", we can't really do
    > the lazy context saving.
    >
    > Now, there's _also_ the issue of the signal handler function possibly
    > actually looking at the FPU state on the stack, and for that, a SA_NOFPU
    > would be a good way to say "you can't do that". So it's possible that even
    > if we could reliably detect the frame liveness we'd really have to use
    > that new flag anyway.
    >
    > But if we do need a SA_NOFPU flag, then that means that basically no app
    > will use it, and it will be some special case for some really unusual
    > library. So I really don't think this whole thing is worth it unless you
    > could do it automatically.

    The library is librcu, which I suspect will become quite important for
    parallel programming in future (maybe I hope for too much).

    But maybe it's better to not merge _any_ librcu special case until
    we see results from programs using it. More general speedups or features
    (that also help librcu) is a different story.



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