Messages in this thread | | | Date | Thu, 4 Mar 2010 15:03:52 -0800 (PST) | From | Linus Torvalds <> | Subject | Re: [git pull] drm request 3 |
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On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Adam Jackson wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 11:14 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > > If you'd made it clear that you wanted the interface to be stable > > > before it got merged, I suspect that it simply wouldn't have been merged > > > until the interface was stable. > > > > What kind of excuse is that? It's "we did bad things, but if we didn't do > > those bad things, we'd have done _other_ bad things"? > > > > Two wrong choices don't make a right. > > So unmerge it.
That's what I told people I can do (I'd just revert that commit).
I can do that. But it's not very productive, is it? What about the people who _do_ want to run the rawhide tree?
Seriously - what's wrong with my suggestion to just version things properly? What's wrong with _fixing_ a stupid technical problem? What's wrong with people that you can't see that there are actual _solutions_ to the f*cking mess that is the current situation?
I can solve it for my own use, and I already stated so. But while kernel developers should be scratching their own itches, a kernel developer that can't see past his own small sandbox is pretty damn worthless. We do need to fix this - and I'm bringing it up and complaining about it, because the nouveau people have _not_ done anything remotely sane.
The current situation causes problems for people. Anybody who disputes that is in denial. Can somebody come up with a _better_ solution than the one I suggested? Feel free to do so, but in the meantime, I have to say that your reply and that of Matthew and others have been totally pointless, and making excuses rather than trying to actually face the fact that there is a problem.
So man up, guys. Face the problem, rather than say "well, it's staging", or "well, we can revert it". Neither of those really solve anything in the short run _or_ the long run.
Linus
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