Messages in this thread | | | Date | Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:49:57 +0200 | From | Ingo Molnar <> | Subject | Re: mailing list for trace users |
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* John Kacur <jkacur@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote: > > > > * David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote: > > > >> From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> > >> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:47:25 +0200 > >> > >> > Could you please also create the linux-perf-users list, for perf > >> > events and the perf tool related user questions? (We have asked for > >> > this before but must have gotten lost somewhere) > >> > >> I think your communities are similar enough and small enough that you > >> could share this list. > > > > It's two separate subsystems. There's a lot of non-tracing aspects of > > performance events: it does profiling, counting, latency analysis, etc. > > The tool is named 'perf', the subsystem is named 'performance events', > > and the most typical workflows dont do any tracing. > > > > And i beg to differ about the size of the communities. It's just been > > added upstream... > > > > Also, what is the policy for adding new lists to vger.kernel.org? If a > > subsystem maintainer asks for a list named after a core kernel > > subsystem, how frequently is it rejected, and on what basis? > > > > I find it sad that such an arbitrary looking negative decision from you > > forces a user list away from vger. I wouldnt mind it to be closed if it > > has no significant traffic after a year or lifetime or so - many vger > > lists have almost no traffic to begin with. > > > > Also, i cannot help but to observe the fact that you've fought the > > original perfcounters project in a very ugly and public way less > > than a year ago. Dont you think that you 'deciding' this matter in > > such a negative fashion is a conflict of interest? > > > > ? ? ? ?Ingo > > Yikes - Ingo, I don't want to spawn a long thread here about what to > call the list, but as a native English speaker, I think that > "linux-trace-users" sounds much nicer than "linux-tracing-users".
That argument i can and will accept of course ...
The "sorry, i ignored you twice and now it's unfortunately too late" excuse given by David i will not ;-)
Note that this mail you replied to was about linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, which David refused to create, suggesting that perf users should mail to linux-trace-users@vger.kernel.org instead. (which is a curious argument - if you use a tool named 'perf', or if you are using PAPI to count events, would it occur to you to mail to that list?)
Ingo
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