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SubjectRe: IOMMU and graphics cards
On Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 10:35:59PM +0100, Dave Airlie wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Jul 2009, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > On Mon, 2009-07-06 at 15:11 +0200, Joerg Roedel wrote:
> > > Ok, cool, that sounds good. Which in-kernel DRM drivers break with IOMMU
> > > for you? I'll may probably add a similar temporary workaround for AMD
> > > IOMMU too...
> >
> > The Intel one definitely broke -- I don't know about the others. There
> > are some old patches at*
> > which make it look like _all_ AGP drivers are broken.
> >
> > I wouldn't bother adding the workaround -- as I said, I'm planning to
> > rip it out of 2.6.32 (and in linux-next as soon as it's reasonable to do
> > so). Let's just let them fix it.
> cc'ing Eric,
> My memory of this is graphics becomes totally useless and can be 10x-50x
> slower. I think ripping this out without the person doing the ripping
> taking responsiblity for doing speed regression testing is totally insane.

Are you sure that using the dma-api has such an performance impact? I've
heard from other people that switching to dma-api with amd iommu had no
significant performance impact.

> I personally have no IOMMU hw from Intel or AMD and nobody has seen it fit
> to supply me with any at any point in time, I'm not on the correct gravy
> train. So I suspect the people with the hw will have to do the work and
> the regression testing.

You just need to switch to dma-api. You don't need an iommu to test.
Most bugs in such code can also be found and eliminated using the
dma-api debugging interface.


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