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SubjectRe: fanotify - overall design before I start sending patches
On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 15:00 -0600, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> On Jul 24, 2009 16:13 -0400, Eric Paris wrote:
> > fanotify kernel/userspace interaction is over a new socket protocol. A
> > listener opens a new socket in the new PF_FANOTIFY family. The socket
> > is then bound to an address. Using the following struct:
> Would it make sense to use existing netlink?

I looked at netlink, but because of the nature of the fact that fd
creation has to be done in the listener context I couldn't figure out
how to make it suitable.

> > struct fanotify_addr {
> > sa_family_t family;
> > __u32 priority;
> > __u32 group_num;
> > __u32 mask;
> > __u32 f_flags;
> > __u32 unused[16];
> > } __attribute__((packed));
> >
> > The mask is the indication of the events this group is interested in.
> > The set of events of interest if FAN_GLOBAL_LISTENER is set at bind
> > time. If FAN_GLOBAL_LISTENER is not set, this field is meaningless as
> > the registration of events on individual inodes will dictate the
> > reception of events.
> >
> > * FAN_ACCESS: every file access.
> > * FAN_MODIFY: file modifications.
> > * FAN_CLOSE: files are closed.
> > * FAN_OPEN: open() calls.
> > * FAN_ACCESS_PERM: like FAN_ACCESS, except that the process trying to
> > access the file is put on hold while the fanotify client decides whether
> > to allow the operation.
> > * FAN_OPEN_PERM: like FAN_OPEN, but with the permission check.
> > * FAN_EVENT_ON_CHILD: receive notification of events on inodes inside
> > this subdirectory. (this is not a full recursive notification of all
> > descendants, only direct children)
> > * FAN_GLOBAL_LISTENER: notify for events on all files in the system.
> > * FAN_SURVIVE_MODIFY: special flag that ignores should survive inode
> > modification. Discussed below.
> It seems like a 32-bit mask might not be enough, it wouldn't be hard
> at this stage to add a 64-bit mask. Lustre has a similar mechanism
> (changelog) that allows tracking all different kinds of filesystem
> events (create/unlink/symlink/link/rename/mkdir/setxattr/etc), instead
> of just open/close, also use by HSM, enhanced rsync, etc.

I had a 64 bit mask, but Al Viro ask me to go back to a 32 bit mask
because of i386 register pressure. The bitmask operations are on VERY
hot paths inside the kernel.

> > struct fanotify_event_metadata {
> > __u32 event_len;
> > __s32 fd;
> > __u32 mask;
> > __u32 f_flags;
> > __s32 pid;
> > __s32 tgid;
> > __u64 cookie;
> > } __attribute__((packed));
> Getting the attributes that have changed into this message is also
> useful, as it avoids a continual stream of "stat" calls on the inodes.

Hmmm, I'll take a look. Do you have a good example of what you would
want to see? I don't think we know in the notification hooks what
actually is being changed :(

> The other thing that is important for HSM is that this log is atomic
> and persistent, otherwise there may be files that are missed if the
> node crashes. This involves creating atomic update records as part
> of the filesystem operation, and then userspace consumes them and
> tells the kernel that it is finished with records up to X. Otherwise
> you risk inconsistencies between rsync/HSM/updatedb for files that
> are updated just before a crash.

Uhhh, persistent across a crash? Nope, don't have that. Notification
is all in memory. Can't I just put the onus on userspace to recheck
things maybe? Sounds like a user for i_version....

> > If a FAN_ACCESS_PERM or FAN_OPEN_PERM event is received the listener
> > must send a response before the 5 second timeout. If no response is
> > sent before the 5 second timeout the original operation is allowed. If
> > this happens too many times (10 in a row) the fanotify group is evicted
> > from the kernel and will not get any new events.
> This should be a tunable, since if the intent is to monitor PERM checks
> it would be possible for users to DOS the machine and delay the userspace
> programs and access files they shouldn't be able to.

At the moment I cheat and say root only to bind. I do plan to open it
up to non-root users after it's in and working, but I'm seriously
considering leaving _PERM events as root only. It's hard to map the
original to listener security implications. So making sure the listener
is always root is easy :)

Userspace would never be able to access a file it shouldn't be allowed
to (the new fd is created in the context of the listener and EPERM is

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