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    SubjectRe: [RFC] transcendent memory for Linux
    2009/6/20 Dan Magenheimer <>:

    > We call this latter class "transcendent memory" and it
    > provides an interesting opportunity to more efficiently
    > utilize RAM in a virtualized environment.  However this
    > "memory but not really memory" may also have applications
    > in NON-virtualized environments, such as hotplug-memory
    > deletion, SSDs, and page cache compression.  Others have
    > suggested ideas such as allowing use of highmem memory
    > without a highmem kernel, or use of spare video memory.

    Here is what I consider may be a use case from the embedded
    world: we have to save power as much as possible, so we need
    to shut off entire banks of memory.

    Currently people do things like put memory into self-refresh
    and then sleep, but for long lapses of time you would
    want to compress memory towards lower addresses and
    turn as many banks as possible off.

    So we have something like 4x16MB banks of RAM = 64MB RAM,
    and the most necessary stuff easily fits in one of them.
    If we can shut down 3x16MB we save 3 x power supply of the

    However in embedded we don't have any swap, so we'd need
    some call that would attempt to remove a memory by paging
    out code and data that has been demand-paged in
    from the FS but no dirty pages, these should instead be
    moved down to memory which will be retained, and the
    call should fail if we didn't succeed to migrate all
    dirty pages.

    Would this be possible with transcendent memory?

    Linus Walleij
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