Messages in this thread | | | Date | Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:38:24 +0200 | From | Pavel Machek <> | Subject | Re: [tip:x86/setup] x86, setup: "glove box" BIOS calls -- infrastructure |
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Hi!
> > Well, difference is that you can defend against arbitrary network > > packet, but you can't defend against arbitrarily broken BIOS. If > > it loops forever, or overwrites random memory place, we lost... > > We could protect against random memory corruption too, if it ever > became a widespread problem: by executing the BIOS call in a virtual > machine. (We can probably use the KVM code to properly emulate big > real mode, etc.)
We already have problems where bios corrupts low memory area during suspend/resume. Not sure how KVM helps.
Anyway I do agree with the patches.
> "BIOS people" are operating in a completely different culture. Time > to market, hardware workarounds, short-term differentiators, secret > bootstrap sequences and code compactness are king in that space. > Code quality is dead last in the list. I strongly doubt that given > the radically conflicting priorities a reasonable dialogue can be > established.
"BIOS people" control stuff like SMM mode. We can workaround some BIOS problems, but definitely not all of them.
For servers, I guess Linux has enough of market share that we could certify known-good servers (and maybe warn against known-bad). Pavel -- (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html
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