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    SubjectRe: [PATCH 1/7] block: Add block_flush_device()
    Ric Wheeler wrote:
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    > As Mark pointed out, most S-ATA/SAS drives will flush the write cache
    > when they see a bus reset so even without barriers, the cache will be
    > preserved (or flushed) after a reboot or panic. Power outages are the
    > problem barriers/flushes are meant to help with.
    ..

    I still see barriers as a separate issue from flushes.
    Flushes are there for power failures and hot-removable devices.

    Barriers are there for that, but also for better odds of data integrity
    in the even of a filesystem or kernel crash.

    Even if I don't want the kernel needlessly flushing my battery-backed
    write caches, I still do want the barrier ordering that improves the
    odds of filesystem consistency in the event of a kernel crash.

    Cheers


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