Messages in this thread | | | Date | Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:53:20 -0700 | From | Randy Dunlap <> | Subject | Re: [patch 00/04] RFC: Staging tree (drivers/staging) |
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On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 07:49:23 -0700 Randy Dunlap wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:27:26 +0900 Paul Mundt wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:59:03PM -0400, Parag Warudkar wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:06 PM, Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de> wrote: > > > > No, this is much different from EXPERIMENTAL. That flag is pretty much > > > > useless right now. This is for a temporary landing place for drivers > > > > that are not good enough to be merged, yet are useful enough for some > > > > people to use. > > > > > > How? TAINT_EXPERIMENTAL (I'll stick to that, thanks :) and > > > CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL are no different - neither to users nor to > > > developers. Here is why - > > > Both try to do the same thing - let people use the drivers on their > > > own risk (as if the stable ones are developer's risk - but let's keep > > > it aside for the moment) and give developers a chance to keep the code > > > in sync with mainline and improve it per user problem reports or > > > generally make it better. > > > > > Uhm.. not quite. As the one that proposed the flag in the first place, > > perhaps it helps to cover the rationale (although Greg seems to have > > mostly covered that already). > > > > EXPERIMENTAL today is pretty damn meaningless. What it tends to mean in > > then it would be better if Greg/someone cleaned up the current tree's > problems instead of introducing more CRAP under a different name. > Oh well, his mind is already made up and I know how difficult it is to > change it.
I shouldn't have said that last sentence. I apologize to Greg.
ISTM that the real problems are (a) it's easier to introduce new staging/crap than it is to fix EXPERIMENTAL and (b) no one wants to try to fix EXPERIMENTAL.
--- ~Randy
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