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DateWed, 7 May 2008 08:00:04 -0700 (PDT)
FromLinus Torvalds <>
SubjectRe: AIM7 40% regression with 2.6.26-rc1

On Wed, 7 May 2008, Alan Cox wrote:
>
> > But my preferred option would indeed be just turning it back into a 
> > spinlock - and screw latency and BKL preemption - and having the RT people 
> > who care deeply just work on removing the BKL in the long run.
> 
> It isn't as if the RT build can't use a different lock type to the
> default build.

Well, considering just *how* bad the new BKL apparently is, I think that's 
a separate issue. The semaphore implementation is simply not worth it. At 
a minimum, it should be a mutex.

> > Is BKL preemption worth it? Sounds very dubious. Sounds even more dubious 
> > when we now apparently have even more reason to aim for removing the BKL 
> > rather than trying to mess around with it.
> 
> We have some horrible long lasting BKL users left unfortunately.

Quite frankly, maybe we _need_ to have a bad BKL for those to ever get 
fixed. As it was, people worked on trying to make the BKL behave better, 
and it was a failure. Rather than spend the effort on trying to make it 
work better (at a horrible cost), why not just say "Hell no - if you have 
issues with it, you need to work with people to get rid of the BKL 
rather than cluge around it".

			Linus
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