Messages in this thread | | | Date | Thu, 1 May 2008 00:35:09 +0200 | From | Ingo Molnar <> | Subject | Re: Slow DOWN, please!!! |
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* Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
> What we need is not 'negative reinforcement'. That is just nasty, open > warfare between isolated parties, expressed in a politically correct > way.
in more detail: any "negative reinforcement" should be on the _technical_ level, i.e. when changes are handled - not at the broad tree level.
Sure, there are exceptions, etc. - but by the time stuff goes upstream it's too late and we've got to fix stuff instead of trying to push back on each other.
by earlier integration (= linux-next) we can do the pushback much earlier, in a much more granular, much more technical in a much less personal way: "hey Ingo, your new sched-dizzy-blah patch broke stuff here, zap it" or "hey Dave, that socket-foo rewrite just broke things here, zap it".
git-revert _kind of_ makes that possible too, but people still feel too personal about reverts - they take it as intrusion into their subsystem and regard it as an attack against their competence as a maintainer.
and this is all so typical btw.: the most effective measure against human warfare is for people to see each other and to talk to each other.
[ That's one reason why i am so worried about mailing list isolation. People get more distant, they mean less to each other, work less with each other => Linux suffers. I do accept that for some people lkml is simply too noisy - but i think the cure is worse than the disease. ]
Ingo
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