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    SubjectRe: Slow DOWN, please!!!
    On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:47:00 -0400
    Dan Noe <> wrote:

    > On 4/30/2008 16:31, Linus Torvalds wrote:
    > >
    > > On Wed, 30 Apr 2008, Andrew Morton wrote:
    > >> <jumps up and down>
    > >>
    > >> There should be nothing in 2.6.x-rc1 which wasn't in 2.6.x-mm1!
    > >
    > > The problem I see with both -mm and linux-next is that they tend to be
    > > better at finding the "physical conflict" kind of issues (ie the merge
    > > itself fails) than the "code looks ok but doesn't actually work" kind of
    > > issue.
    > >
    > > Why?
    > >
    > > The tester base is simply too small.
    > >
    > > Now, if *that* could be improved, that would be wonderful, but I'm not
    > > seeing it as very likely.
    > Perhaps we should be clear and simple about what potential testers
    > should be running at any given point in time. With -mm, linux-next,
    > linux-2.6, etc, as a newcomer I find it difficult to know where my
    > testing time and energy is best directed.

    -mm consists of the sum of

    a) the ~80 subsytem maintainers trees (git and quilt)

    b) the ~100 subsytem trees which are hosted only in -mm.

    linux-next consists of only a)

    Soon I shall remove a) from -mm and will replace it with linux-next (this
    should be a no-op).

    Later, I shall start feeding those 100 random subsystems into linux-next
    as well (somehow).

    > Is linux-next the right thing to be running at this point?

    yes. 85% of the code which goes into Linux goes via the ~80 subsystem
    maintainers' trees and is (or should be) in linux-next. The other 15%
    is the hosted-in-mm work.

    > Is there a
    > need for testing in a particular tree (netdev, x86, etc)?

    No, please test the sum-of-all-trees in linux-next. If you hit problems
    then, as part of the problem resolving process a developer _might_ ask you
    to test one tree specifically, but that would be a pretty unusual

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