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    SubjectRe: sk98lin for 2.6.23-rc1
    On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 21:01:30 -0600
    Rob Sims <lkml-z@robsims.com> wrote:

    > On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 06:57:01PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
    > > On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 11:16:36AM -0400, Kyle Rose wrote:
    > > > >From http://www.krose.org/~krose/computing.html:
    > > >
    > > > Since the sky2 driver continues to suck ass (which is a technical
    > > > description for "it hangs all the time under load, at least on my
    > > > hardware" :-) ), I've fixed the sk98lin driver to compile for
    > > > linux-2.6.23-rc1. Those who continue to have problems with sky2 can
    > > > still use 2.6.23-rc1, simply by doing the following:
    > > >...
    > > > Personally, I'd like to see sk98lin remain in the kernel proper until
    > > > sky2 goes at least 6 months without reported problems. The fact that I
    > > > am not the only one still seeing issues is a clear indication that sky2
    > > > (even with the recent patches in 2.6.23-rc1) is not yet ready to replace
    > > > sk98lin.
    > > >...
    > >
    > > This sounds good in theory.
    > >
    > > The practical problem with this approach is that there are always many
    > > people who use the old driver when the new driver doesn't work for them
    > > instead of reporting their problems with the new driver.
    > >
    > > For these people a new driver will often suck when the old driver gets
    > > removed, but after the removal of the old driver they are finally forced
    > > to report their bugs resulting in a better new driver for everyone.
    > >
    > > The sky2 driver is since nearly 2 years in the kernel and Stephen is
    > > usually quite good at handling bugs.
    >
    > The driver still (2.6.20/sky2 1.13) hangs for me (more rarely than in
    > the past), and cycling the module generally fixes the issues. I have
    > supplied all the information that Stephen has asked for, but still no
    > resolution. I am not complaining about the lack of a fix, but don't
    > assume that all it takes to get sky2 working is adequate bug reports. I
    > have been and remain willing to test and assist debug, but after several
    > dropped threads, I feel like the desire or ability to fix this issue
    > isn't there (and remote debug of an intermittent hardware issue IS
    > hard), and I didn't want to be a nuisance to someone that has no
    > obligation to me to address the issue in the first place.
    >
    > Stability has improved, it's just not there yet.
    >
    > I'll switch to 1.16 soon, and respond to Stephen's request on netdev for
    > current issues.
    > --
    > Rob

    The only known outstanding problems on 2.62.22.6 of sky2 are:
    * problems with fibre PHY based systems
    * suspend/resume issues, missing multicast reinitalization, etc.
    The previous stability problems have been addressed.
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