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SubjectRe: [PATCH] Should GFP_ATOMIC fail when we're below low watermark?
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On (20/08/07 20:55), Nigel Cunningham didst pronounce:
> Hi.
>
> On Monday 20 August 2007 18:59:36 Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Mon, 2007-08-20 at 18:38 +1000, Nigel Cunningham wrote:
> > > Hi.
> > >
> > > On Monday 20 August 2007 12:43:50 Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 2007-08-20 at 11:38 +1000, Nigel Cunningham wrote:
> > > > > Hi all.
> > > > >
> > > > > In current git (and for a while now), an attempt to allocate memory
> with
> > > > > GFP_ATOMIC will fail if we're below the low watermark level. The only
> way
> > > to
> > > > > access that memory that I can see (not that I've looked that hard) is
> to
> > > have
> > > > > PF_MEMALLOC set (ie from kswapd). I'm wondering if this behaviour is
> > > correct.
> > > > > Shouldn't GFP_ATOMIC allocations ignore watermarks too? How about
> > > GFP_KERNEL?
> > > > >
> > > > > The following patch is a potential fix for GFP_ATOMIC.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, no.
> > > >
> > > > GFP_ATOMIC must fail when below the watermark. GFP_KERNEL has __GFP_WAIT
> > > > and hence can sleep and wait for reclaim so that should not be a problem
> > > > (usually).
> > > >
> > > > GFP_ATOMIC may not access the reserves because the reserves are needed
> > > > to get out of OOM deadlocks within the VM. Consider the fact that
> > > > freeing memory needs memory - if there is no memory free, you cannot
> > > > free memory and you're pretty much stuck.
> > >
> > > I guess, then, the question should be whether the watermark values are
> > > appropriate. Do we need high order allocations watermarked if this is the
> > > only purpose, particularly considering that whatever memory is allocated
> for
> > > this purpose is essentially useless 99.9% of the time?
> >
> > Could you perhaps explain what you're trying to do? No matter what we
> > do, GFP_ATOMIC will fail eventually, there is only so much one can do
> > without blocking.
> >
> > As for higher order allocations, until we have a full online defrag
> > solution those too can fail at any moment (even with __GFP_WAIT).
>
> I was just trying to make hibernation more reliable in sitations where there's
> low amounts of memory available. I guess the amount of memory that's reserved
> for this has increased, because some users have been reporting issues that
> hadn't appeared before. No problem. I'll work around it.

Where are these reports? I'm not familiar with how hibernation works but
why does it need a large number of GFP_ATOMIC allocations?

--
Mel Gorman
Part-time Phd Student Linux Technology Center
University of Limerick IBM Dublin Software Lab
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