Messages in this thread | | | From | "Rafael J. Wysocki" <> | Subject | Re: Please release a stable kernel Linux 3.0 | Date | Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:41:38 +0200 |
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On Thursday, 28 June 2007 23:15, Pavel Machek wrote: > Hi! > > > > >> Even the good ones that get lots of fixes aren't all that good. The > > > >> biggest problem ATM is that suspend is badly broken and keeps getting > > > >> worse... > > > > > > > > I wasn't under the impression suspend had really ever worked. Such a > > > > messy problem to solve. > > > > > > > > > > It never worked reliably for everyone, but with each new release it > > > seems to get worse. > > > > the thing is just fundamentally not designed right. Declaring it stable > > ain't gonna fix that. Having someone do a right design (which will > > obviously will go through some breakage period, even if it's an > > evolution of the current design) is a required step of getting s/r more > > reliable... but the current one doesn't get stable just by declaring it > > so. > > Ok, I guess one more pair of eyes would help. > > > > > >> Even the good ones that get lots of fixes aren't all that good. The > > > >> biggest problem ATM is that suspend is badly broken and keeps getting > > > >> worse... > > > > > > > > Can you please provide me with any links to suspend-related bug reports from > > > > you? > > > > > > I get so many suspend/resume bug reports that I've given up trying > > > to get them fixed. And there are so many bugs that are even worse, > > > like crashes during normal use, data corruption, etc. that suspend > > > bugs don't get much attention. But here are the ones for Fedora 6; > > > the list would be much longer if I included Fedora 5 and 7: > > (list of 20 bugs in redhat bugzilla). > > ...well, it looks a bit better from my side. Number of suspend bugs in > suse bugzilla is certainly lower, and I guess it works a bit better, > too. (But we do not claim s2ram support for machines outside of s2ram > whitelist). > > Now, perhaps redhat should get someone to work on suspend/hibernation > support (kernel level)? IIRC you had Nigel at one point, but he was > working on something else? > > Rafael and me am trying to look after hibernation, but I believe noone > is really working on suspend :-(.
I've been trying to for some time, but I still need to learn more. Also, the issues in there are difficult to debug.
Right now I'm collecting information and trying to help where I know what to do. :-)
Greetings, Rafael
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