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SubjectRe: Please release a stable kernel Linux 3.0
On Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 11:18:36AM +0200, Zolt?n HUBERT wrote:
> I'm a system engineer, and a "stable" system is one where
> the interfaces are stable. Individual components can
> change, and do change, but if you change fundamental
> interfaces it is not the same system. Of course I
> understand that "sometimes" fundamental things have to
> change, but here "sometimes" is the keyword. If its
> "anytime" it simply is no stable system. And yes, designing
> and maintaining interfaces is a very difficult job.

What makes you think that module interfaces _exist_? Over the years
we'd got a pile of exports. Maybe 5-10% of it could form several
more or less sane interfaces. And that's being very optimistic.
But try to get those interfaces and guess who'll scream bloody
murder? That's right, the 3rd-party module developers. The same
people who presumably want stability. Because all that dreck had
been exported on someone's requests.

> I don't remember how it was during 2.4 and before, but I
> find it very suspicious that SuSE and RedHat only provide
> 2.6.10 and 2.6.9 for their OS. It looks as if THEY didn't
> trust 2.6.x to be a replacement to 2.6.y

Eh? Funny, but in the next xterm I've got an ssh session to RHEL-5
box. 2.6.18+many backported patches... FC is simply following
mainline, but that's a separate story...

> And as I understand it, this is (was ?) the whole point of
> stable/development kernels. "We" can trust a newer stable
> kernel to be a drop-in replacement for an older stable
> kernel (from the same series), while development kernels
> need time to stabilise with the new whizz-bang-pfouit stuff
> that you all so nicely add.

"Drop-in" in which sense? That out-of-tree modules keep working?
Not really...
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