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DateWed, 27 Jun 2007 13:51:25 -0500
From"Serge E. Hallyn" <>
SubjectRe: [PATCH try #2] security: Convert LSM into a static interface
Quoting Serge E. Hallyn (serue@us.ibm.com):
> Quoting James Morris (jmorris@namei.org):> > On Wed, 27 Jun 2007, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:> > > > > Quoting Kyle Moffett (mrmacman_g4@mac.com):> > > > This whole discussion boils down to 2 points:> > > > > > Yes it can, but not the two you list.> > > > > > >   1) As currently implemented, no LSM may be safely rmmod-ed> > > > > > That's not the rationale for the patch, it's just some talking point you
> > > picked up.  The rationale for the patch is to prevent abuse.> > > > This is not correct.  Reducing API abuse is simply a bonus.
> > > > The rationale for the patch is to remove unneeded infrastructure which 
> > complicates security by introducing the idea that the security module can 
> > be removed at all.> > > > It was in response to your very own posting about the new capabilities 
> > code which would need to take this into account.> > It's (IMO) by far not the optimal "solution"  :)  If it is felt a
> solution is really needed, re-introduction of a
> security_ops->module_exit hook and introduction of CAP_SYS_CAPDISABLE
> would be better.
> 
> But I'm well aware there are far too many (separate and not so separate)
> agendas driving this, and have no expectations of being able to stop it.
> 
> James, FWIW, I'm sorry I haven't had a chance to actually test the
> patch.  I'll try to get around to that today or at least this week.

Patch tests fine for me for expected capability behavior with lsm=n,
lsm=y, lsm=y+capability=y, lsm=y+selinux=y, and lsm=y+caps=y+selinux=y.

So while I'm opposed to the patch, it appears to be safe.

thanks,
-serge
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